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  Pioneers and Their Way of Counting "Time"

  by Eiben Scrood in

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  2. friends

  in the congregations in my area there was an expression to the effect that 'there's counting time and then there's the way pioneers count their time'.

  the watchtower's guidelines were pretty strict on when time could be counted.

  some pioneers followed it and others didn't.. on particularly motivated young man comes to mind, he would work full-time or close to it and pioneer.

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  It’s just crazy that so much emphasis is put on such an arbitrary thing. Your standing in the organization basically came down to this figure reported each month. Whatever ambitions you might have had came down to meeting or exceeding certain expectations statistically. Holy spirit and/or spirituality had nothing to do with appointments. Your time slips are what mattered and yet one person’s 10 hours could be very different from someone else’s. One person could be meeting the national average whereas another could be in the weak under 5 club all based on how they count their time.

  Time spent trying to help or encourage those already in the religion meant nothing. If you can’t report it, then what is the use of the activity?

  There is something fundamentally wrong with the whole system of time reporting. But for a cult, it’s a perfect tool to try to guilt the masses into constantly doing more.
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  Pioneers and Their Way of Counting "Time"

  by Eiben Scrood in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  in the congregations in my area there was an expression to the effect that 'there's counting time and then there's the way pioneers count their time'.

  the watchtower's guidelines were pretty strict on when time could be counted.

  some pioneers followed it and others didn't.. on particularly motivated young man comes to mind, he would work full-time or close to it and pioneer.

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  Eiben Scrood

  In the congregations in my area there was an expression to the effect that 'there's counting time and then there's the way pioneers count their time'. The Watchtower's guidelines were pretty strict on when time could be counted. Some pioneers followed it and others didn't.

  On particularly motivated young man comes to mind, he would work full-time or close to it and pioneer. I once asked him how many hours he expected to get on certain days and I knew that he was basically counting time from the moment he left the house until the moment he got home. I know others who counted their time from when they arrived at the service group even though Mother said in the Organized book that it should only be counted from the first door or possibly phone call.

  Pioneers schedule their hours and get them on those days whether there are breaks or delays. I found ordinary publishers to be much more honest in their reporting.

  It always puzzled me because here these pioneers are making such a show of their service to the Watchtower but didn't Jehovah know that they were cheating?
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  Prozac Use Among JWs, Bethelites, Circuit Overseers and District Overseers, What Gerritt Loesch Said

  by Scott77 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  any bethelite whom served the past 5/6 years remembers gerritt loesch's morning worship when he mentioned over 40% of those in special full-time service (bethel, missionary, co, do) were on antidepressants, such as prozac.

  serious phenomena affecting many, but throw the tight reins, multiplies it.

  mc rubbermallet.

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  I am no longer on anti-depressants but was on them frequently when in the cult. I remember that I and others sometimes felt like we were "cheating" taking them because they helped us serve the Watchtower better but what about the poor people who didn't have access to them and therefore committed more sins both of commission and omission? Jehovah was going to kill them off for not meeting the national average and yet here we were, pill-popping, and auxiliary pioneering, racking up treasure in heaven and sure to be saved. I actually stopped taking them for a while because of feeling guilt over this "cheating".

  The whole thing is so f'd up.
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  The Beast-Tower #5: The Apostates--Earth's Vilest Liars!

  by sd-7 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  today, many moviegoers will entertain themselves with a movie called 'the avengers'.

  filled with violent content, spiritism, and demonic overtones, it is hardly any surprise that those who are affected by 'the spirit of the world' will be drawn to its themes.

  (eph.

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  I like your use of the words 'evidently' and 'antitype'. Your article was truly upbuilding and happifying.
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  Bullet list of major (recent) changes

  by RN in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it is with great interest that i recently read ceders article on the decline of the wts.

  his article along with many of the comments really drives home just how many major changes there have been in a fairly short peroid of time.. somewhere in the recent past i could swear that someone had posted a bullet list of major changes with the corresponding year.

  when i saw this (or something like it) my first thought was that this simple list made it all the more shocking; and since i have searched and cannot find anything like it.. so i dug around and started one of my own, please feel free to add/corrects events.

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  They changed the Awake magazine starting with the issue released after the November 1995 generation change.
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  Examples of Fredrick Franz Horrible personality.

  by Witness 007 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in he's nephews book i could not believe some of the things he mentions.

  when his father died fred franz told his mother he could not go to the funeral because he was just too busy at bethel.

  she spoke to rutherford who ordered him to go.

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  I have no sympathy for this asshole. None.
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  Fun with the July 15th WT illustration

  by undercover in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, friends, it's that time once more... when we clip some wt art to a post and try to find all the subliminal wt propaganda messages hidden in the illustration.

  (kinda like, "can you find the differences between these two drawings" for kids in the sunday comics).

  here's the illustration:.

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  Yes, I noted how fat they all are compared to the wordly chick who is slim.
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  Fun with the July 15th WT illustration

  by undercover in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  yes, friends, it's that time once more... when we clip some wt art to a post and try to find all the subliminal wt propaganda messages hidden in the illustration.

  (kinda like, "can you find the differences between these two drawings" for kids in the sunday comics).

  here's the illustration:.

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  Like someone else said, you can't make this shit up! For all the angst the Watchtower put me through, I do have to thank them for the comedy.
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  Absurd WT Control in April 2012 KM

  by LostGeneration in

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  2. friends

  yeah in the section on attending the convention, you will find this gem:.

  "therefore, we should give attention to our dress and grooming while in the convention city, including when we check in at the hotel.

  arriving in shorts and a t-shirt would not reflect dignity.".

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  They have some kind of fetish about dress clothes, like they imbue the wearer with some kind of holiness. How can people stand it?!
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  Memorial Bragging Rights: We Had a "Bethel Speaker"...Ooooooo..

  by Open mind in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so was your congo affluent & connected enough to have a "bethel speaker"?.

  at least one congo in our area had one.

  om.

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  Barbara, did Ciro ever explain the real reasons the Watchtower joined the UN? I believe the signature was Ciro's on the application.